tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post7598765477398932009..comments2023-10-09T11:08:03.947+01:00Comments on Bright Marketing: Why 'DIY' When You Can Outsource?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04641628859399373785noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-67376461370672419582011-03-10T10:07:58.496+00:002011-03-10T10:07:58.496+00:00OK - apologies for my earlier outburst. This lot a...OK - apologies for my earlier outburst. This lot are not the typical marketing whores I was referring to. <br><br>Nice honest businesses. Real people. Believable. Free of BS. <br><br>Good. What a relief. Restores my faith.<br><br>JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-4068384844359224472011-03-10T10:07:58.285+00:002011-03-10T10:07:58.285+00:00What you need in an outsourced partner - is trust,...What you need in an outsourced partner - is trust, someone who understands your business and has up to date skills and expertise...<br><br>Sense of humour helps on the days when things go wrong...HR Depthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11180263521822771485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-15728995925816902892011-03-10T10:07:58.049+00:002011-03-10T10:07:58.049+00:00Do not outsource your core functions.AndyDo not outsource your core functions.<br>AndyAndy Haynesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-66898082273162977312011-03-10T10:07:57.862+00:002011-03-10T10:07:57.862+00:00R (author)Thanks for your comments.There is no fin...R (author)<br><br>Thanks for your comments.<br><br>There is no financial/formal connection between the FD Centre or HR Dept and The Directors' Centre. However I do know the people at both organisations and like what I see. I have recommended that clients talk to each company. <br><br>In 2010 I am speaking at an event being run by these two companies and some of their associates.<br><br>Robert<br><br>Thanks for the 'plug' (deliberate or otherwise). If you want to talk about The Directors' Centre consultancy services then Paul Jobin is your man 01225 851044Robert Cravenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04641628859399373785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-19656575271685745412011-03-10T10:07:57.684+00:002011-03-10T10:07:57.684+00:00RobertThe key message here is about what you shoul...Robert<br><br>The key message here is about what you should outsource.<br><br>Depending on the stage of your business then it will vary.<br><br>For businesses over 1m t/o which is what Robert and Director's Centre talk about then you need<br>- an FD on a rope (sometimes, not always but there and available in the background<br>- a 'best friend' for the MD (like the Directors Centre people)<br>- an HR 'function'<br><br>Without being too specific let me explain.<br><br>1 FD-type person. can't do without a commercially focused person in your key team who can do the numbers. Doesn't have to be an accountant but does have to be commercially minded and rooted in reality. Interesting to see FD Centre appearing here. Any formal relationship?<br><br>2 Being MD is lonely and one struggles to maintain direction, enthusiasm. You need someone on your side. Independent. Telling you how it is. What you can do. Starting to sound like a party political broadcast<br><br>3 HR function. 'In house' or 'out of house' you need an HR director on a rope and an HR Manager on a rope. Interesting to see HR Dept appearing here. Any formal relationship?<br><br>Finally one would imagine that there would be a Marketing Director already in place but if that is not the case then this would a number 4.<br><br>RR (author)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-89207598179407011642009-12-10T16:07:39.574+00:002009-12-10T16:07:39.574+00:00Surprised by the absence of content from
"J...Surprised by the absence of content from <br /><br />"James Benson – The FD Centre<br />Peter Prater – QTAC Payroll Systems<br />Anthony Sherry – Chorus IT<br />Jason Flintner – Flint Design"<br /><br />What should we conclude? They don't know about the blog?Jerry McGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-34166860361683001492009-11-30T19:04:06.368+00:002009-11-30T19:04:06.368+00:00R (author)
Thanks for your comments.
There is no...R (author)<br /><br />Thanks for your comments.<br /><br />There is no financial/formal connection between the FD Centre or HR Dept and The Directors' Centre. However I do know the people at both organisations and like what I see. I have recommended that clients talk to each company. <br /><br />In 2010 I am speaking at an event being run by these two companies and some of their associates.<br /><br />Robert<br /><br />Thanks for the 'plug' (deliberate or otherwise). If you want to talk about The Directors' Centre consultancy services then Paul Jobin is your man 01225 851044Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04641628859399373785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-76299606154702330672009-11-30T18:01:02.632+00:002009-11-30T18:01:02.632+00:00Robert
The key message here is about what you sho...Robert<br /><br />The key message here is about what you should outsource.<br /><br />Depending on the stage of your business then it will vary.<br /><br />For businesses over 1m t/o which is what Robert and Director's Centre talk about then you need<br />- an FD on a rope (sometimes, not always but there and available in the background<br />- a 'best friend' for the MD (like the Directors Centre people)<br />- an HR 'function'<br /><br />Without being too specific let me explain.<br /><br />1 FD-type person. can't do without a commercially focused person in your key team who can do the numbers. Doesn't have to be an accountant but does have to be commercially minded and rooted in reality. Interesting to see FD Centre appearing here. Any formal relationship?<br /><br />2 Being MD is lonely and one struggles to maintain direction, enthusiasm. You need someone on your side. Independent. Telling you how it is. What you can do. Starting to sound like a party political broadcast<br /><br />3 HR function. 'In house' or 'out of house' you need an HR director on a rope and an HR Manager on a rope. Interesting to see HR Dept appearing here. Any formal relationship?<br /><br />Finally one would imagine that there would be a Marketing Director already in place but if that is not the case then this would a number 4.<br /><br />RR (author)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-19981450786425079912009-11-23T17:35:15.762+00:002009-11-23T17:35:15.762+00:00It is the small-minded small business blief in the...It is the small-minded small business blief in the one-size-fits-all DIY solutions that worry me.<br /><br />RobertAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04641628859399373785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-23244099179948863082009-11-12T16:30:28.177+00:002009-11-12T16:30:28.177+00:00It seems that there are different outsource agents...It seems that there are different outsource agents you might need.<br />- core buisness function: eg accountant<br />- secondary bus function: eg IT or brand<br />- core personal/board development: NED, business coach<br />- secondary: personal coach.<br /><br />MoragMoragnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-82018748338360066452009-11-12T08:51:52.849+00:002009-11-12T08:51:52.849+00:00Do not outsource your core functions.
AndyDo not outsource your core functions.<br />AndyAndy Haynesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-4857139075031182732009-11-10T08:43:50.619+00:002009-11-10T08:43:50.619+00:00The full Director Magazine article can be seen at
...The full Director Magazine article can be seen at<br />http://www.directorscentre.com/DirectorNov09.pdf<br />I was one of three commentatators on the question<br /><br />RobertAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04641628859399373785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-64696947082105791872009-11-06T17:53:37.406+00:002009-11-06T17:53:37.406+00:00What you need in an outsourced partner - is trust,...What you need in an outsourced partner - is trust, someone who understands your business and has up to date skills and expertise...<br /><br />Sense of humour helps on the days when things go wrong...HR Depthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11180263521822771485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-78621806265182641382009-11-04T07:43:52.660+00:002009-11-04T07:43:52.660+00:00Just seen the Director piece. Short and sweet. Isn...Just seen the Director piece. Short and sweet. Isn't there a wine story you use?<br />JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-7411277730135644472009-11-03T17:20:19.116+00:002009-11-03T17:20:19.116+00:00A bit of a tease. Not everyone is a member of the ...A bit of a tease. Not everyone is a member of the IOD. Nort on the iod or director website.<br />JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-52304509682980163242009-11-03T11:24:42.378+00:002009-11-03T11:24:42.378+00:00There is an article about supply chain (= outsourc...There is an article about supply chain (= outsourcing?) which features/mentions Robert in today's Director magazine.Jerry McGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-30976219520269678902009-11-01T19:55:08.437+00:002009-11-01T19:55:08.437+00:00The trick is to know when to outsource and when to...The trick is to know when to outsource and when to bring a skill inhouse. <br /><br />The tipping point is when you can buy the inhouse version for the same fee as the outsource or part-time alternative. <br /><br />Next you need to make sure that the inhouse person is as up-to-speed as the outsource expert.<br /><br />A lot of this is about understanding how to contract and define objectives and outcomes.<br /><br />With the outsource person it is easier to sack them.<br /><br />Finally you need some kind of priority list for what you want to come in-house earlier.<br /><br />For us (web designers, 14 staff) the order list went<br />1) office manager/book-keeper<br />2) sales person #1<br />3) sales person #2<br /><br /><br />We use HR and FD and IT network and branding and mentoring services from outsourcers. They are part of the team by varying degrees. We will continue to outsouce till we are at least double our existing size.<br /><br />You get what you pay for.<br /><br />Read Tim Ferriss on the subject.<br /><br />Jerry, StrathclydeJerry McGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-313427840293019864.post-14457456314289359112009-10-31T08:34:59.599+00:002009-10-31T08:34:59.599+00:00OK - apologies for my earlier outburst. This lot a...OK - apologies for my earlier outburst. This lot are not the typical marketing whores I was referring to. <br /><br />Nice honest businesses. Real people. Believable. Free of BS. <br /><br />Good. What a relief. Restores my faith.<br /><br />JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com